tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1449952380128375575.post8830677536607686120..comments2024-03-21T00:30:14.738-07:00Comments on Yoga in the Dragon's Den: What isn't yoga?Nobelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00655577410721103577noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1449952380128375575.post-62537251245245340932013-04-22T04:40:41.402-07:002013-04-22T04:40:41.402-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03071677150491420838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1449952380128375575.post-13141367797399535002013-04-21T03:37:49.150-07:002013-04-21T03:37:49.150-07:00I really agree with u Jake this really fantastic<a rel="nofollow"></a><br />I really agree with u Jake this really fantastic<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15837127690293026933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1449952380128375575.post-33704478249429861462013-04-19T19:01:07.656-07:002013-04-19T19:01:07.656-07:00Check the stories about the rishis, they were hous...Check the stories about the rishis, they were householders and had fits of passion just like everyone else. Probably indicates a yes to your question.<br /><br />The sanskrit term alankara is the aesthetic concept of embellishment, particularly in correct proportion. Western aesthetics treats the same subject extensively, for example with ornamentation in baroque music. The idea is that too little embellishment fails to engage the senses, too much obscures the subject, so the artist's task is to add the right amount. Seasoning your food is an obvious example, from which we derive the saying "variety is the spice of life." There is a lot of emphasis in yoga on controlling the senses, which can serve the purpose of practicing the fifth limb but which also can serve the purpose of alankara.<br /><br />Eventually though you have to decide what your theoretical orientation is. Is the Self pure awareness, or is it the reflection of your integration with the world? Tantric practitioners regard Patanjali as nonsense. They want their vrittis because in their worldview, if the vrittis cease to exist then their Self ceases to exist. But the thing is, some people's vrittis compel them to sociopathic or otherwise self-destructive behavior, as we've seen illustrated this week. This is the source of tantra's bad reputation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1449952380128375575.post-49265182998785970622013-04-19T15:56:40.421-07:002013-04-19T15:56:40.421-07:00Hmm... I'm actually more intrigued than confus...Hmm... I'm actually more intrigued than confused. Well, here's a question I have: Do you think it is possible to have your (tantric) cake and eat your (yogic) cake too? You know, maybe "indulge" in tantra to a certain extent, but not so much as to lose sight of the yogic goal, which is to attain Self-realization?Nobelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00655577410721103577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1449952380128375575.post-78697733005363679562013-04-19T12:26:55.647-07:002013-04-19T12:26:55.647-07:00You're welcome.
It may also help to know tha...You're welcome. <br /><br />It may also help to know that the tantra has a similar dualism, shiva/shakti. Whereas yogic practices cultivate viveka (discernment) between purusha and prakriti (enabling the yogi to see purusha clearly), tantric practices leverage the power of shakti to unite and integrate with shiva. Not sharing the yogic concept of Self as unaffected consciousness, the tantra views Self as the ongoing engagement of the two dualities of shiva and shakti. Hence the regard of all phenomena as opportunity for tantric practice, which could be called self-expression or trendier terms like "rockin' your shakti."<br /><br />I hope everyone is now sufficiently confused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1449952380128375575.post-71498739407908754282013-04-18T16:08:50.763-07:002013-04-18T16:08:50.763-07:00Interesting. Much to think about here. Thanks for ...Interesting. Much to think about here. Thanks for your clarification of this in light of the purusha/prakriti distinction.Nobelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00655577410721103577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1449952380128375575.post-61644231036017919212013-04-17T23:39:51.590-07:002013-04-17T23:39:51.590-07:00Well, honestly speaking,yoga is really an wonderf...Well, honestly speaking,yoga is really an wonderful exercise to do.with the help of yoga we can keep ourselves fresh and healthy physically and mentally.its an very ancient exercise that our ancestors used to do for fit and fine health. <br /><br /> --Fabrizio NevesFabrizio Neveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00399575352556913708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1449952380128375575.post-59182907772785048432013-04-17T22:42:55.298-07:002013-04-17T22:42:55.298-07:00Well, truly said, yoga really helps to maintain th...Well, truly said, yoga really helps to maintain the health of our body. It not only helps to keep our body fit but it also helps to keep our mind fit as well as it balance both our body and mind.<br /> --Fabrizio NevesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1449952380128375575.post-57641217283674755162013-04-17T19:18:22.033-07:002013-04-17T19:18:22.033-07:00As defined by Patanjali: yoga is Self-realization,...As defined by Patanjali: yoga is Self-realization, not self-expression. This is absolutely the most basic fact that those who subscribe to a "lineage" need to understand, in conjunction with understanding the difference between the Self (purusha) and everything that is not the Self (prakriti).<br /><br />Sutra 2.17 - draṣṭṛdṛśyayoḥ saṃyogo heyahetuḥ (Confusion between the Seer (purusha) and the Seen (prakriti) is the preventable cause of suffering)<br /><br />Significantly, the following Sutra 2.18 touches upon the importance of leveraging prakriti: prakāśakriyāsthitiśīlaṃ bhūtendriyātmakaṃ bhogāpavargārthaṃ dṛśyamḥ (The Seen is made of light, action and inertia, and it exists for the purpose of experience and liberation)<br /><br />These two sutras neatly summarize the Ashtanga Vinyasa practice: use your mind and body to transcend your mind and body.<br /><br />Regarding self-expression, the "self" is part of the Seen, prakriti. These practices (chocolate yoga etc) which commonly go under the name of yoga are more appropriately referred to as tantric. However the word tantra has acquired a lot of unfortunate connotations, as the ideas about fellatio yoga and defecation yoga would reflect.<br /><br />http://www.swamij.com/yoga-vedanta-tantra.htm<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com